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The '''Hong Kong Submarine Flotilla''' was a small formation of [[Submarine|submarines]] of the [[Royal Navy]]. | The '''Hong Kong Submarine Flotilla''' was a small formation of [[Submarine|submarines]] of the [[Royal Navy]] that was active during the [[Great War]]. | ||
==History== | ==History== | ||
The formation's constituent ships were simply listed with other assets on the [[China Station]]. The formation's membership seemed uniquely static: three "C" class coastal submarines arranged under the depot ship {{UK-Rosario}}, whose services may also have been provided to T.Bs. and T.B.Ds. on the station. | |||
===September, 1914=== | ===September, 1914=== | ||
Three "C" class submarines and their depot ship are listed under "China Station". This arrangement would carry through the entire war, which is remarkable.{{SMNLSep15|p. 16 and Supplements through October, 1918}} | |||
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|colspan=2 align=center|{{UK-C36}}||colspan=2 align=center|{{UK-C37}}||colspan=2 align=center|{{UK-C38}} | |colspan=2 align=center|{{UK-C36}}||colspan=2 align=center|{{UK-C37}}||colspan=2 align=center|{{UK-C38}} | ||
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In March 1918, the format of the ''Navy List'' would more clearly align the submarines with ''Rosario''. Whether this was a meaningful change is not clear, but it would persist through the end of the war as ''Supplements to the Monthly Navy List'' would make clear. | |||
===November, 1918=== | |||
No real change, except {{UK-Rosario}} is marked as "Paid off". This arrangement would carry through December.{{SMNLNov18|p. 24}} | |||
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| style="background:#CEDFF2" align=center colspan=6 | '''At Hong Kong''' | |||
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|align=center colspan=6|'''Depot Ship''' | |||
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|colspan=6 align=center|{{UK-Rosario}}* | |||
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|align=center colspan=6|'''Submarines''' | |||
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|colspan=2 align=center|{{UK-C36}}||colspan=2 align=center|{{UK-C37}}||colspan=2 align=center|{{UK-C38}} | |||
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===December, 1918=== | |||
No real change, all component vessels are marked as "Paid off". This dormant status would carry through until at least July, 1919.{{SMNLDec18|p. 24 and Supplements through July, 1919}} | |||
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|- | |||
| style="background:#CEDFF2" align=center colspan=6 | '''At Hong Kong''' | |||
|- | |||
|align=center colspan=6|'''Depot Ship''' | |||
|- | |||
|colspan=6 align=center|{{UK-Rosario}}* | |||
|- | |||
|align=center colspan=6|'''Submarines''' | |||
|- | |||
|colspan=2 align=center|{{UK-C36}}*||colspan=2 align=center|{{UK-C37}}*||colspan=2 align=center|{{UK-C38}}* | |||
|} | |} | ||
==In Command== | ==In Command== | ||
I can find no clear sign that the flotilla had a commander after March, 1915. It may have ceased to exist as a named entity, though its components remained on the ''Navy List''. | |||
Dates of appointment given: | Dates of appointment given: | ||
<div name=fredbot:office0 otitle="In Command, Hong Kong Submarine Flotilla" nat="UK"> | <div name=fredbot:office0 otitle="In Command, Hong Kong Submarine Flotilla" nat="UK"> | ||
{{Tenure|rank={{LaCRN}}|name=Nicholas Edward Archdale|nick=Nicholas E. Archdale|appt=24 April, 1911{{NLMar13|p. 368}}|end=October, 1913<ref>Archdale Service Record. {{TNA|ADM 196/90.|}} f. 187.</ref>}} | {{Tenure|rank={{LaCRN}}|name=Nicholas Edward Archdale|nick=Nicholas E. Archdale|appt=24 April, 1911{{NLMar13|p. 368}}|end=October, 1913<ref>Archdale Service Record. {{TNA|ADM 196/90.|}} f. 187.</ref>}} | ||
{{Tenure|rank={{LaCRN}}|name=Francis Allen Newton Cromie|nick=Francis A. N. Cromie|appt=c. mid August 1913{{NMI|22 Aug. 1913, p. 8}}|end=}} | {{Tenure|rank={{LaCRN}}|name=Francis Allen Newton Cromie|nick=Francis A. N. Cromie|appt=c. mid August 1913{{NMI|22 Aug. 1913, p. 8}}|end=March 1915<ref>Cromie Service Record. {{TNA|ADM 196/47/86.|D7603793}} f. 291.</ref>}} | ||
</div name=fredbot:office0> | </div name=fredbot:office0> | ||
Latest revision as of 20:46, 16 October 2021
The Hong Kong Submarine Flotilla was a small formation of submarines of the Royal Navy that was active during the Great War.
History
The formation's constituent ships were simply listed with other assets on the China Station. The formation's membership seemed uniquely static: three "C" class coastal submarines arranged under the depot ship Rosario, whose services may also have been provided to T.Bs. and T.B.Ds. on the station.
September, 1914
Three "C" class submarines and their depot ship are listed under "China Station". This arrangement would carry through the entire war, which is remarkable.[1]
At Hong Kong | |||||
Depot Ship | |||||
Rosario | |||||
Submarines | |||||
C 36 | C 37 | C 38 |
In March 1918, the format of the Navy List would more clearly align the submarines with Rosario. Whether this was a meaningful change is not clear, but it would persist through the end of the war as Supplements to the Monthly Navy List would make clear.
November, 1918
No real change, except Rosario is marked as "Paid off". This arrangement would carry through December.[2]
At Hong Kong | |||||
Depot Ship | |||||
Rosario* | |||||
Submarines | |||||
C 36 | C 37 | C 38 |
December, 1918
No real change, all component vessels are marked as "Paid off". This dormant status would carry through until at least July, 1919.[3]
At Hong Kong | |||||
Depot Ship | |||||
Rosario* | |||||
Submarines | |||||
C 36* | C 37* | C 38* |
In Command
I can find no clear sign that the flotilla had a commander after March, 1915. It may have ceased to exist as a named entity, though its components remained on the Navy List.
Dates of appointment given:
- Lieutenant & Commander Nicholas E. Archdale, 24 April, 1911[4] – October, 1913[5]
- Lieutenant & Commander Francis A. N. Cromie, c. mid August 1913[6] – March 1915[7]
Footnotes
- ↑ Supplement to the Monthly Navy List. (September, 1915). p. 16 and Supplements through October, 1918.
- ↑ Supplement to the Monthly Navy List. (November, 1918). p. 24.
- ↑ Supplement to the Monthly Navy List. (December, 1918). p. 24 and Supplements through July, 1919.
- ↑ The Navy List. (March, 1913). p. 368.
- ↑ Archdale Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/90. f. 187.
- ↑ "Naval & Military Intelligence." The Times (London, England), 22 Aug. 1913, p. 8.
- ↑ Cromie Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/47/86. f. 291.
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