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===Torpedoes===
===Torpedoes===
In 1913, it was approved, as part of a general reallocation of 18-in torpedoes, to replace the torpedoes on [[Minotaur Class Cruiser (1906)|''Minotaur'' class]] (except ''Shannon''), [[Duke of Edinburgh Class Cruiser (1904)|''Duke of Edinburgh'']] and [[Bristol Class Cruiser (1909)|''Bristol'' classes]] with F III**  torpedoes.{{ARTS1913|p. 8}}
In 1913, it was approved, as part of a general reallocation of 18-in torpedoes, to replace the torpedoes on [[Minotaur Class Cruiser (1906)|''Minotaur'' class]] (except ''Shannon''), [[Duke of Edinburgh Class Cruiser (1904)|''Duke of Edinburgh'']] and [[Bristol Class Cruiser (1909)|''Bristol'' classes]] with Fiume Mark III**  torpedoes.{{ARTS1913|p. 8}}
 
In early 1914, the ships had two [[Torpedo Director Pattern 2006]]s and were to have them exchanged for -A models which supported gyro angling.{{AWO1914|1019 of 17 Apr, 1914}}


==Fire Control==
==Fire Control==
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===Gunnery Control===
===Gunnery Control===
 
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===Local Control in Turrets===
===Local Control in Turrets===
 
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===Transmitting Stations===
===Transmitting Stations===
It seems from frequent mention of a fore {{TS}} that these ships had transmitting stations fore and aft.


===Dreyer Table===
===Dreyer Table===
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* Siemens turret fire gongs: 12 with 6 keys
* Siemens turret fire gongs: 12 with 6 keys
* Vickers fire gongs: 10 with 4 keys  
* Vickers fire gongs: 10 with 4 keys  
* Captain's Cease Fire Bells:  16 (16 in ''Duke of Edinburgh'') with 1 key (supplier not stated)
* Captain's Cease Fire Bells:  16 (16 in {{UK-DukeOfEdinburgh}}) with 1 key (supplier not stated)


As in the [[Minotaur_Class_Cruiser_(1906)|''Minotaur'' class]], bearing instruments were installed in or by 1915.  The receivers in the four 9.2-in broadside guns and the 6-in officers' positions are operated in by transmitters in the TS for their side or by their respective master transmitters in the foretop.  The two centre-line turrets are connected to a transmitter in the TS or to one of the master transmitters.  The 6-in guns are worked om transmitters in the O.O.Q. position on that side.{{ARTS1915|p. 219.<br>I am not fully sure I grasp this description}}
As in the [[Minotaur_Class_Cruiser_(1906)|''Minotaur'' class]], bearing instruments were installed in or by 1915.  The receivers in the four 9.2-in broadside guns and the 6-in officers' positions are operated in by transmitters in the TS for their side or by their respective master transmitters in the foretop.  The two centre-line turrets are connected to a transmitter in the {{TS}} or to one of the master transmitters.  The 6-in guns are worked om transmitters in the O.O.Q. position on that side.{{ARTS1915|p. 219. I am not fully sure I grasp this description}}
The overall bill of fare ran to:
The overall bill of fare ran to:
* 2 special "master" bearing transmitters, Graham's type (in foretop, P&S)
* 2 special "master" bearing transmitters, Graham's type (in foretop, P&S)
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** 2 in the O.O.Q.'s position, P & S
** 2 in the O.O.Q.'s position, P & S
** 2 in the foretop, P & S
** 2 in the foretop, P & S
** 2 in the TS, P & S
** 2 in the {{TS}}, P & S
* 23 Barr and Stroud bearing receivers:
* 23 Barr and Stroud bearing receivers:
** 10 for the 6-in guns (1 each)
** 10 for the 6-in guns (1 each)
** 6 for the 9.2-in guns (1 per turret)
** 6 for the 9.2-in guns (1 per turret)
** 2 in the O.O.Q.'s position, P & S
** 2 in the O.O.Q.'s position, P & S
** 1 repeat in the fore TS
** 1 repeat in the fore {{TS}}
** 2 repeats in the foretop
** 2 repeats in the foretop
* Three C.O.S. (one in fore TS, and two in foretop)
* Three C.O.S. (one in fore {{TS}}, and two in foretop)


These ships lacked ''Target Visible'' and ''Gun Ready'' signals.{{HFCI1914|p. 11}}
These ships lacked ''Target Visible'' and ''Gun Ready'' signals.{{HFCI1914|p. 11}}
===Torpedo Control===


==See Also==
==See Also==

Revision as of 16:09, 14 November 2012

The two armoured cruisers of the Duke of Edinburgh Class were completed in 1906.

[hide]Overview of 2 vessels
Citations for this data available on individual ship pages
Name Builder Laid Down Launched Completed Fate
Black Prince Thames Iron Works, Blackwall 3 Jun, 1903 8 Nov, 1904 17 Mar, 1906 Sunk 31 May, 1916
Duke of Edinburgh Pembroke Royal Dockyard 11 Feb, 1903 14 Jun, 1904 20 Jan, 1906 Sold 12 Apr, 1920

Armament

In early 1913, new pattern G. 329 trainer's telescopes of 2.5 power and 20 degree field were issued to these and many other capital ships, to replace the 5/12, 5/15 and 5/21 variable power G.S. telescopes that had previously been in use.[1]

During the war, along with those of other older ships, the ten 6-inch guns casemated on the main deck proved of little use in practical sea states. It was decided to remove them, plate their ports over and move eight of them to the upper deck, with three each side between the 9.2-in turrets, and one each side on the forecastle. Low freeboard gave them marginal value even in the new locations.[2]

Main Battery

The six 9.2-in guns were Mark X, mounted in Mk V S single mountings.[3]

Secondary Battery

The original ten 6-in guns were Mark VII, probably mounted on P. III or P. IV mountings.[4] Later, and seemingly before Jutland, two were removed and all remaining guns relocated to the upper deck. Even in the new positions, the low freeboard of these ships gave the guns limited value.

In February, 1913, these mountings, along with many other 4-in and 6-in mountings in various capital ships and cruisers were to have illumination added for their training index racers.[5]

Torpedoes

In 1913, it was approved, as part of a general reallocation of 18-in torpedoes, to replace the torpedoes on Minotaur class (except Shannon), Duke of Edinburgh and Bristol classes with Fiume Mark III** torpedoes.[6]

In early 1914, the ships had two Torpedo Director Pattern 2006s and were to have them exchanged for -A models which supported gyro angling.[7]

Fire Control

Rangefinders

Evershed Bearing Indicators

It is unlikely that this equipment was ever provided.[Inference]

Directors

In 1916, it was approved that the ships of this class should be retrofitted with directors as time, resources and opportunity permitted,[8] but these plans were slow to execute. Duke of Edinburgh received one in October 1918, but Black Prince was likely lost before her equipment was ever ordered.[9][Inference]

Gunnery Control

Transmitting Stations

It seems from frequent mention of a fore T.S. that these ships had transmitting stations fore and aft.

Dreyer Table

These ships never received Dreyer tables.[10]

Fire Control Instruments

By 1909, both ships were equipped with Vickers, Son and Maxim instruments for range, deflection and orders and with Barr and Stroud rate instruments as follows:[11]

  • Vickers range transmitters: 10
  • Vickers deflection transmitters: 10
  • Vickers combined range and deflection receivers: 33
  • Vickers C.O.S.: 5
  • Vickers Check fire switches: 10
  • Barr and Stroud rate transmitters: 4
  • Barr and Stroud rate receivers: 8
  • Siemens turret fire gongs: 12 with 6 keys
  • Vickers fire gongs: 10 with 4 keys
  • Captain's Cease Fire Bells: 16 (16 in Duke of Edinburgh) with 1 key (supplier not stated)

As in the Minotaur class, bearing instruments were installed in or by 1915. The receivers in the four 9.2-in broadside guns and the 6-in officers' positions are operated in by transmitters in the TS for their side or by their respective master transmitters in the foretop. The two centre-line turrets are connected to a transmitter in the T.S. or to one of the master transmitters. The 6-in guns are worked om transmitters in the O.O.Q. position on that side.[12] The overall bill of fare ran to:

  • 2 special "master" bearing transmitters, Graham's type (in foretop, P&S)
  • 6 Barr and Stroud bearing transmitters:
    • 2 in the O.O.Q.'s position, P & S
    • 2 in the foretop, P & S
    • 2 in the T.S., P & S
  • 23 Barr and Stroud bearing receivers:
    • 10 for the 6-in guns (1 each)
    • 6 for the 9.2-in guns (1 per turret)
    • 2 in the O.O.Q.'s position, P & S
    • 1 repeat in the fore T.S.
    • 2 repeats in the foretop
  • Three C.O.S. (one in fore T.S., and two in foretop)

These ships lacked Target Visible and Gun Ready signals.[13]

See Also

Footnotes

  1. Admiralty Weekly Orders. 28 Feb, 1913. The National Archives. ADM 182/4.
  2. The Technical History and Index, Vol. 4, Part 36. p. 9.
  3. The Sight Manual. 1916. p. 110.
  4. The Sight Manual. 1916. p. 111.
  5. Admiralty Weekly Orders. The National Archives. ADM 182/4. 21 Feb, 1913 entries. pp. 3-4.
  6. Annual Report of the Torpedo School, 1913. p. 8.
  7. Admiralty Weekly Order No. 1019 of 17 Apr, 1914.
  8. Annual Report of the Torpedo School, 1916. p. 175.
  9. The Technical History and Index, Vol. 3, Part 23. p. 15.
  10. Handbook of Captain F. C. Dreyer's Fire Control Tables, 1918. p. 3.
  11. Handbook for Fire Control Instruments, 1909. pp. 56, 60.
  12. Annual Report of the Torpedo School, 1915. p. 219. I am not fully sure I grasp this description.
  13. Handbook for Fire Control Instruments, 1914. p. 11.

Bibliography

  • Friedman, Norman (2012). British Cruisers of the Victorian Era. Annapolis: Naval Institute Press. ISBN 1591140684 (on Amazon.com and Amazon.co.uk).
  • Admiralty, Technical History Section (1920). The Technical History and Index: Alteration in Armaments of H.M. Ships during the War. Vol. 4, Part 34. C.B. 1515 (34) now O.U. 6171/20. At The National Archives, Kew, United Kingdom.
  • Admiralty, Gunnery Branch (1917). The Director Firing Handbook. O.U. 6125 (late C.B. 1259). Copy No. 322 at The National Archives. ADM 186/227.
  • Admiralty, Gunnery Branch (1918). Handbook of Captain F. C. Dreyer's Fire Control Tables, 1918. C.B. 1456. Copy No. 10 at Admiralty Library, Portsmouth, United Kingdom.


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