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The nine Second-Class Cruisers of the '''Eclipse Class''' were quite old during World War I.
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The nine Second-Class Cruisers of the '''''Eclipse'' Class''' (sometimes referred to as the '''''Talbot'' class''') were completed for the [[Royal Navy]] between 1896 and 1898.
  
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! colspan=6 align=left|Overview of 9 vessels
! width=20%; align= center | Builder  
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! width=15%; align= center | Laid Down  
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| colspan=6 align=left|<small>Citations for this data available on individual ship pages</small>
! width=15%; align= center | Launched  
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! width=15%; align= center | Commissioned
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! align=center | Name  
! width=15%; align= center | Fate
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! align=center | Builder  
|- valign="top"
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! align=center | Laid Down  
| [[H.M.S. Diana (1895)|''Diana'']] || ||  ||  ||  ||  
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! align=center | Launched  
|- valign="top"
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! align=center | Completed
| [[H.M.S. Dido (1896)|''Dido'']] || ||  ||  ||  ||  
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! align=center | Fate
|- valign="top"
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|- align=left
| [[H.M.S. Doris (1896)|''Doris'']] || ||  ||  ||  ||  
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| {{Template:UK-1Diana}}
|- valign="top"
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|[[Fairfield Shipbuilding and Engineering Company]]
| [[H.M.S. Eclipse (1894)|''Eclipse'']] || ||  ||  ||  ||  
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|13 Aug, 1894
|- valign="top"
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|5 Dec, 1895
| [[H.M.S. Isis (1896)|''Isis'']] || ||  ||  ||  ||  
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|15 Jun, 1897
|- valign="top"
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|Sold 1 Jul, 1920
| [[H.M.S. Juno (1895)|''Juno'']] || ||  ||  ||  ||  
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|- align=left
|- valign="top"
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| {{Template:UK-Dido}}
| [[H.M.S. Minerva (1895)|''Minerva'']] || ||  ||  ||  ||  
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|[[London & Glasgow]]
|- valign="top"
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|30 Aug, 1894
| [[H.M.S. Talbot (1895)|''Talbot'']] || ||  ||  ||  ||  
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|20 Mar, 1896
|- valign="top"
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|10 May, 1898
| [[H.M.S. Venus (1895)|''Venus'']] || ||  ||  ||  ||  
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|Sold 16 Dec, 1926
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|- align=left
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| {{Template:UK-Doris}}
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|[[Vickers]]
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|29 Aug, 1894
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|3 Mar, 1896
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|18 Nov, 1897
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|Sold 20 Feb, 1919
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|- align=left
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| {{Template:UK-1Eclipse}}
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|[[Portsmouth Royal Dockyard]]
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|11 Dec, 1893
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|19 Jul, 1894
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|23 Mar, 1897
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|Sold Aug, 1921
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|- align=left
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| {{Template:UK-1Isis}}
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|[[London & Glasgow]]
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|30 Jan, 1895
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|27 Jun, 1896
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|10 May, 1898
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|Sold 26 Feb, 1920
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|- align=left
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| {{Template:UK-Juno}}
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|[[Vickers]]
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|22 Jun, 1894
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|16 Nov, 1895
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|16 Jun, 1897
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|Sold 24 Sep, 1920
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|- align=left
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| {{Template:UK-Minerva}}
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|[[Chatham Royal Dockyard]]
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|4 Dec, 1893
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|23 Sep, 1895
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|4 Feb, 1897
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|Sold 5 Oct, 1920
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|- align=left
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| {{Template:UK-Talbot}}
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|[[Devonport Royal Dockyard]]
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|5 Mar, 1894
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|25 Apr, 1895
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|15 Sep, 1896
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|Sold 6 Dec, 1921
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|- align=left
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| {{Template:UK-Venus}}
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|[[Fairfield Shipbuilding and Engineering Company]]
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|28 Jun, 1894
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|5 Sep, 1895
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|9 Nov, 1897
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|Sold 22 Sep, 1921
 
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==Binoculars==
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In September 1914, the ships were allowed four additional pairs of Pattern 343 Service Binoculars.{{AWO1914|331 of 8 Sep, 1914}}
  
 
==Armament==
 
==Armament==
  
 
===Main Battery===
 
===Main Battery===
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Originally, all ships carried a mixed main battery mounted on the uppermost deck of the ship:
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*  Five 6-in Q.F. Mark II Guns on P.II Mountings,{{UKQuarterlyWeapons1914Q3|p. 29}} 200 rounds allocated per gun{{UKShipArmament1914|April 1914 pp. 26-27}}
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*  Six 4.7-in Q.F. Mark IV Guns on P.IV Mountings,{{UKQuarterlyWeapons1914Q3|p. 46}}  250 rounds per gun {{UKShipArmament1914|April 1914 pp. 26-27}}
  
===Secondary Battery===
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With the exception of {{UK-Eclipse}} all were re-armed with a single gun main battery (for dates see individual ships):
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*  Eleven 6-in B.L. Mark VII Guns on P.III U.D. Mountings,{{UKQuarterlyWeapons1914Q3|p. 36}}  200 rounds per gun.{{UKShipArmament1914|April 1914 pp. 26-27}}  Maximum elevation of 15 degrees, maximum depression 7 degrees, with a range dial graduation limited to 11,300 yards/14.5 degrees elevation.{{TheSightM|p. 108}}
  
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===Secondary Battery===
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*  Eight 12-pdr 12 cwt Q.F. Guns on S.II Mountings,{{UKQuarterlyWeapons1914Q3|pp. 65-66}} 250 rounds per gun, these guns were also provided with blank charges for saluting.{{UKShipArmament1914|April 1914 pp. 26-27}}  Maximum elevation of 20 degrees, maximum depression 10 degrees, with a range dial graduation limited to 8,100 yards/19 degrees 15 seconds elevation.{{TheSightM|p. 108}}
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===Other Guns===
 
===Other Guns===
 
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By 1914 the minor armament was:
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*  One 12-pdr 8 cwt Q.F. Gun on G.I Mounting, with alternative field carriage for landing parties,{{UKQuarterlyWeapons1914Q3|pp. 77-86}} allocated 300 rounds.{{UKShipArmament1914|April 1914 pp. 26-27}}
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*  One 3-pdr Q.F. Hotchkiss Gun on Recoil Mark I Mounting.{{UKQuarterlyWeapons1914Q3|pp. 98-110}}  Maximum elevation of 25 degrees, maximum depression 30 degrees.  This mounting had a simple non-telescopic sight with a range dial graduation limited to 3,400 yards/6 degrees 14 seconds elevation.{{UKH6And3Pdr1916|p. ?}} 
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*  Two Maxim Guns, with alternative field stands for landing parties.{{UKQuarterlyWeapons1914Q3|pp. 116-123}}{{UKShipArmament1914|April 1914 pp. 26-27}}
 
===Torpedoes===
 
===Torpedoes===
In ''Talbot's'' trials, she was able to fire from submerged tubes with no deflection while running full speed.  Her stern tube appears to have been above-water by design but was firing reliably even when full of water at speed, unlike the [[Apollo Class Cruiser (1890)|''Apollo'' class]] which found this problematic the same year.<ref>''Annual Report of the Torpedo School, 1896'', pp. 36, 37, 41.</ref>
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There were three 18-in torpedo tubes, with original torpedo allocation as follows:{{ARTS1894|pp. 72-73}}
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* two submerged tubes with three torpedoes each and one (shared between them) for exercise, depressed 3 degrees and bearing abeam; axis of tube was 6 feet below load water line and 10 inches above the deck.{{UKTorpM1909III|p. 265}}
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* one above water stern tube with two torpedoes and one for exercise
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Except in time of war, all torpedoes would be stored at the submerged tubes except a single one stored at the stern tube.
  
==Fire Control==
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In {{UK-Talbot}}'s trials, she was able to fire from submerged tubes with no deflection while running full speed.  Her stern tube appears to have been above-water by design but was firing reliably even when full of water at speed, unlike the [[Apollo Class Cruiser (1890)|''Apollo'' class]] which found this problematic the same year.{{ARTS1896|pp. 36, 37, 41}}
  
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By 1914 the torpedo allocation had been increased to a total of thirteen torpedoes, with the tubes themselves unchanged.{{UKShipArmament1914|April 1914 pp. 26-27}}
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==Fire Control==
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As completed the ships had no specific fire control apparatus.  By 1914 ships upgraded with 6-inch B.L. Guns were provided with Visual Fire Control for daytime and [[Telaupad]] for night defence.{{UKShipArmament1914|April 1914 pp. 26-27}}
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==See Also==
 
==See Also==
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_class_cruiser Wikipedia]
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==Footnotes==
 
==Footnotes==
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==Bibliography==
 
==Bibliography==
 
{{refbegin}}
 
{{refbegin}}
*{{BibDittmarColledge}}
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*{{DittColl}}
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*{{TheSightM}}
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*{{UKQuarterlyWeapons1914Q3}}
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*{{UKShipArmament1914}}
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*{{UKH6And3Pdr1916}}
 
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pend=N.34 (Jan., 1918)<ref>Dittmar; Colledge. p. 40.</ref>
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pend=D.18 (1914)<br>P.58 (Sep 1915)<br>N.34 (Jan 1918){{DittColl|p. 40}}
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}
  
 
{ship
 
{ship
 
name=Dido
 
name=Dido
pend=P.87 (Jan., 1918)<ref>Dittmar; Colledge. p. 293.</ref>
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pend=P.05 (1914)<br>P.87 (Jan 1918){{DittColl|p. 293}}
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fate2=Scrapped
 
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fatedate=16 Dec, 1926
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fatedate=16 Dec, 1926{{DittColl|p. 293}}
 
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}
  
 
{ship
 
{ship
 
name=Doris
 
name=Doris
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pend=D.59 (1914)<br>P.47 (Sep 1915)<br>''none'' (Jan 1918){{DittColl|p. 40}}
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fate2=Scrapped
 
fate2=Scrapped
fatedate=20 Feb, 1919
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fatedate=20 Feb, 1919{{DittColl|p. 40}}
 
}
 
}
  
 
{ship
 
{ship
 
name=Eclipse
 
name=Eclipse
pend=
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pend=D.58 (1914)<br>''none'' (Sep 1915)<br>''Oblique'' (Mar 1916){{DittColl|p. 40}}
builder=[[Portsmouth Royal Dockyard]]
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launch=19 Jul, 1894{{DittColl|p. 40}}
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comm=23 3 97{{Conways1860|p. 78}}
 
fate=Sold
 
fate=Sold
 
fate2=Scrapped
 
fate2=Scrapped
fatedate=Aug, 1921
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fatedate=Aug, 1921{{DittColl|p. 40}}
 
}
 
}
  
 
{ship
 
{ship
 
name=Isis
 
name=Isis
pend=N.61 (Jan., 1918)<ref>Dittmar; Colledge. p. 40.</ref>
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pend=D.60 (1914)<br>P.60 (Sep 1915)<br>N.61 (Jan 1918){{DittColl|p. 40}}
builder=[[London & Glasgow]]
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builder=[[London & Glasgow]]{{DittColl|p. 40}}
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comm=10 5 98{{Conways1860|p. 78}}
 
fate=Sold
 
fate=Sold
 
fate2=Scrapped
 
fate2=Scrapped
fatedate=26 Feb, 1920
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fatedate=26 Feb, 1920{{DittColl|p. 40}}
 
}
 
}
  
 
{ship
 
{ship
 
name=Juno
 
name=Juno
pend=N.65 (Jan., 1918)<ref>Dittmar; Colledge. p. 40.</ref>
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pend=N.37 (1914)<br>N.65 (Jan 1918){{DittColl|p. 40}}
builder=[[Vickers]]
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builder=[[Vickers]]{{DittColl|p. 40}}
order=
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order="
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laid=22 6 94{{Conways1860|p. 78}}
launch=16 Nov, 1895
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launch=16 Nov, 1895{{DittColl|p. 40}}
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comm=16 6 97{{Conways1860|p. 78}}
 
fate=Sold
 
fate=Sold
 
fate2=Scrapped
 
fate2=Scrapped
fatedate=24 Sep, 1920
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fatedate=24 Sep, 1920{{DittColl|p. 40}}
 
}
 
}
  
 
{ship
 
{ship
 
name=Minerva
 
name=Minerva
pend=P7A (Jan., 1918)<ref>Dittmar; Colledge. p. 40.</ref>
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pend=P.32 (1914)<br>P.1A (Sep 1915)<br>P.7A (Jan 1918){{DittColl|p. 40}}
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fatedate=5 Oct, 1920
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fatedate=5 Oct, 1920{{DittColl|p. 40}}
 
}
 
}
  
 
{ship
 
{ship
 
name=Talbot
 
name=Talbot
pend=P.A7 (Jan., 1918)<ref>Dittmar; Colledge. p. 40.</ref>
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pend=D.61 (1914)<br>P.61 (Sep 1915)<br>P.A7 (Jan 1918){{DittColl|p. 40}}
builder=[[Devonport Royal Dockyard]]
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builder=[[Devonport Royal Dockyard]]{{DittColl|p. 40}}
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order="
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laid=5 3 94{{Conways1860|p. 78}}
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launch=25 Apr, 1895{{DittColl|p. 40}}
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comm=15 9 96{{Conways1860|p. 78}}
 
fate=Sold
 
fate=Sold
 
fate2=Scrapped
 
fate2=Scrapped
fatedate=6 Dec, 1921
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fatedate=6 Dec, 1921{{DittColl|p. 40}}
 
}
 
}
  
 
{ship
 
{ship
 
name=Venus
 
name=Venus
pend=P.2C (Jan., 1918)<ref>Dittmar; Colledge. p. 40.</ref>
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pend=P.36 (1914)<br>P.2C (Jan 1918){{DittColl|p. 40}}
builder=[[Fairfield]]
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builder=[[Fairfield Shipbuilding and Engineering Company]]{{DittColl|p. 40}}
order=
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launch=5 Sep, 1895{{DittColl|p. 40}}
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comm=9 Nov, 1897{{Conways1860|p. 78}}
 
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fatedate=22 Sep, 1921{{DittColl|p. 40}}
 
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Latest revision as of 09:52, 1 May 2018

The nine Second-Class Cruisers of the Eclipse Class (sometimes referred to as the Talbot class) were completed for the Royal Navy between 1896 and 1898.

Binoculars

In September 1914, the ships were allowed four additional pairs of Pattern 343 Service Binoculars.[1]

Armament

Main Battery

Originally, all ships carried a mixed main battery mounted on the uppermost deck of the ship:

  • Five 6-in Q.F. Mark II Guns on P.II Mountings,[2] 200 rounds allocated per gun[3]
  • Six 4.7-in Q.F. Mark IV Guns on P.IV Mountings,[4] 250 rounds per gun [5]

With the exception of Eclipse all were re-armed with a single gun main battery (for dates see individual ships):

  • Eleven 6-in B.L. Mark VII Guns on P.III U.D. Mountings,[6] 200 rounds per gun.[7] Maximum elevation of 15 degrees, maximum depression 7 degrees, with a range dial graduation limited to 11,300 yards/14.5 degrees elevation.[8]

Secondary Battery

  • Eight 12-pdr 12 cwt Q.F. Guns on S.II Mountings,[9] 250 rounds per gun, these guns were also provided with blank charges for saluting.[10] Maximum elevation of 20 degrees, maximum depression 10 degrees, with a range dial graduation limited to 8,100 yards/19 degrees 15 seconds elevation.[11]

Other Guns

By 1914 the minor armament was:

  • One 12-pdr 8 cwt Q.F. Gun on G.I Mounting, with alternative field carriage for landing parties,[12] allocated 300 rounds.[13]
  • One 3-pdr Q.F. Hotchkiss Gun on Recoil Mark I Mounting.[14] Maximum elevation of 25 degrees, maximum depression 30 degrees. This mounting had a simple non-telescopic sight with a range dial graduation limited to 3,400 yards/6 degrees 14 seconds elevation.[15]
  • Two Maxim Guns, with alternative field stands for landing parties.[16][17]

Torpedoes

There were three 18-in torpedo tubes, with original torpedo allocation as follows:[18]

  • two submerged tubes with three torpedoes each and one (shared between them) for exercise, depressed 3 degrees and bearing abeam; axis of tube was 6 feet below load water line and 10 inches above the deck.[19]
  • one above water stern tube with two torpedoes and one for exercise

Except in time of war, all torpedoes would be stored at the submerged tubes except a single one stored at the stern tube.

In Talbot's trials, she was able to fire from submerged tubes with no deflection while running full speed. Her stern tube appears to have been above-water by design but was firing reliably even when full of water at speed, unlike the Apollo class which found this problematic the same year.[20]

By 1914 the torpedo allocation had been increased to a total of thirteen torpedoes, with the tubes themselves unchanged.[21]

Fire Control

As completed the ships had no specific fire control apparatus. By 1914 ships upgraded with 6-inch B.L. Guns were provided with Visual Fire Control for daytime and Telaupad for night defence.[22]

See Also

Footnotes

  1. Admiralty Weekly Order No. 331 of 8 Sep, 1914.
  2. Quarterly Appropriation List of Gun Mountings, Aug 1914. p. 29.
  3. List of HM Ships showing their armaments, 1914-1915. April 1914 pp. 26-27.
  4. Quarterly Appropriation List of Gun Mountings, Aug 1914. p. 46.
  5. List of HM Ships showing their armaments, 1914-1915. April 1914 pp. 26-27.
  6. Quarterly Appropriation List of Gun Mountings, Aug 1914. p. 36.
  7. List of HM Ships showing their armaments, 1914-1915. April 1914 pp. 26-27.
  8. The Sight Manual, 1916. p. 108.
  9. Quarterly Appropriation List of Gun Mountings, Aug 1914. pp. 65-66.
  10. List of HM Ships showing their armaments, 1914-1915. April 1914 pp. 26-27.
  11. The Sight Manual, 1916. p. 108.
  12. Quarterly Appropriation List of Gun Mountings, Aug 1914. pp. 77-86.
  13. List of HM Ships showing their armaments, 1914-1915. April 1914 pp. 26-27.
  14. Quarterly Appropriation List of Gun Mountings, Aug 1914. pp. 98-110.
  15. Handbook for Hotchkiss 6 pr and 3 pr quick-firing guns, including Japanese mountings, 1916.. p. ?.
  16. Quarterly Appropriation List of Gun Mountings, Aug 1914. pp. 116-123.
  17. List of HM Ships showing their armaments, 1914-1915. April 1914 pp. 26-27.
  18. Annual Report of the Torpedo School, 1894. pp. 72-73.
  19. Torpedo Manual, Vol. III, 1909. p. 265.
  20. Annual Report of the Torpedo School, 1896. pp. 36, 37, 41.
  21. List of HM Ships showing their armaments, 1914-1915. April 1914 pp. 26-27.
  22. List of HM Ships showing their armaments, 1914-1915. April 1914 pp. 26-27.

Bibliography

  • Dittmar, F.J.; Colledge, J.J. (1972). British Warships 1914–1919. London: Ian Allan.
  • H.M.S.O. (1916). The Sight Manual, 1916. Pub. No. OU 6026 The National Archives. ADM 186/216.
  • H.M.S.O. (1914). Quarterly Appropriation List of Gun Mountings for B.L., Q.F, and Machine Guns, August 1914. The National Archives. ADM 186/195.
  • H.M.S.O. (1914-1915). List of HM Ships showing their armaments, 1914-1915. The National Archives. ADM 186/864.
  • Admiralty, Gunnery Branch (1916). Handbook for Hotchkiss 6 pr and 3 pr quick-firing guns, including Japanese mountings, 1916. The National Archives. ADM 186/212.


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