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The Dreadnought Project Naval History in the years 1890-1920
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Iain
Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 119
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 am Post subject: Re: Armored Cruisers ACR-10 thru 13 |
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No, I am not out of my mind, but it did drive me crazy taking the side view from the NC, and the sections form the WA!!!
Wes
(working on a ACR-11 USS Washington, sharing dwgs with John) |
I am going through the opposite problem right now, as the drawings of North Carolina I received only had seven stations, hardly enough to do a ship of that size. I am taking the stations from Washington and making them fit into what I have of North Carolina in order to generate a hull. I won't be going any further with the 3d model than that.
As to my physical model, I have begun building detail parts--boat cranes, steam windlass, etc. _________________ John Dulaney
Volunteer, North Carolina Maritime Museum
Draftsman, Municipal Engineering Services Co, PA
And I have the most extensive music collection in the county, from examples of Roman and Greek to the new ACDC album. |
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Ironman
Joined: 08 Mar 2010 Posts: 104 Location: Washington
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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So I take it the drawings you have depict the detail Items you are now building? _________________ "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty"
Thomas Jefferson |
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Iain
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Actually, I've redrawn the drawings I received from the National Archives. And yes, I've started working on parts. Todays project is to turn gun barrels. _________________ John Dulaney
Volunteer, North Carolina Maritime Museum
Draftsman, Municipal Engineering Services Co, PA
And I have the most extensive music collection in the county, from examples of Roman and Greek to the new ACDC album. |
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Ironman
Joined: 08 Mar 2010 Posts: 104 Location: Washington
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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It would be great to see some of the sub assemblies during construction. _________________ "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty"
Thomas Jefferson |
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W F Moore
Joined: 01 Aug 2008 Posts: 15 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:32 pm Post subject: ACR-11 model (USS Washington) |
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In reply to March 10 question.
I am working on a 3-D CAD model, eventually to be a physical model
(probably after I retire in 2014!).
Actually, I should live so long, I'd like to do 2 versions:
as commisioned 1907, all white and buff and gorgeous; and,
early 1917, with an aft facing seaplane catapult (and painted gray).
Since the CATIA-5 is at work, progress depends on how busy they keep me (oh, hi, Boss!...)
Unfortunately, I can only send John 2-D sections, so he has to figure out the 3-D hull-form all over again in AutoCAD.
Wes |
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Iain
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks to Wes, I'm finally done with the hull, which means I can start cutting stations this weekend. I'm probably going to make templates for the first few strakes, but then it will be all 'rack of eye' for the planking. I really don't care if the planks look good because I'm going to coat the whole thing with epoxy and fill in the cracks to get a nice, smooth surface.
Tony, how do you want me to get you the drawings? _________________ John Dulaney
Volunteer, North Carolina Maritime Museum
Draftsman, Municipal Engineering Services Co, PA
And I have the most extensive music collection in the county, from examples of Roman and Greek to the new ACDC album. |
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Iain
Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 119
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:17 am Post subject: Anchor Crane |
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My current interest is the anchor crane.
This is what I've got drawing wise:
And I have two photographs (thank you for standardization!):
I'm going with the crane being about 15' high judging from the men in the above photos. _________________ John Dulaney
Volunteer, North Carolina Maritime Museum
Draftsman, Municipal Engineering Services Co, PA
And I have the most extensive music collection in the county, from examples of Roman and Greek to the new ACDC album. |
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Ironman
Joined: 08 Mar 2010 Posts: 104 Location: Washington
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Ok I got it right this time,.. tried to post this 3 times.
Anchor crane for Brooklyn
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Iain
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:02 am Post subject: |
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Frakking awesome, thanks. _________________ John Dulaney
Volunteer, North Carolina Maritime Museum
Draftsman, Municipal Engineering Services Co, PA
And I have the most extensive music collection in the county, from examples of Roman and Greek to the new ACDC album. |
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Ironman
Joined: 08 Mar 2010 Posts: 104 Location: Washington
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| No problem man,.. I'm just glad to be of some help. |
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Iain
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, for some reason the draftsman decided to omit that from the outboard profile view that I have. _________________ John Dulaney
Volunteer, North Carolina Maritime Museum
Draftsman, Municipal Engineering Services Co, PA
And I have the most extensive music collection in the county, from examples of Roman and Greek to the new ACDC album. |
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Ironman
Joined: 08 Mar 2010 Posts: 104 Location: Washington
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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When I was cleaning the "noise" from the profile view I found it wasnt all noise after I thought I saw patterns in all the dots. The second starboard anchor, its chain, what I believe to be a storage for life preservers, line securing eyes, and I dont know what all were faintly traced on the drawings, but nearly invisible because of the "static/noise/overhelming mass of dots".
Dont know if thats possible in your case.
Maybe the same guy that took off with my bow boosted your crane :) |
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Iain
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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Now that you mention it, it is still there, mostly, just erased.
In other news, I've been building turrets:
I also finally decided to bite the bullet and actually fair out my stations on my 3d drawing. I am going to use these as templates for the bulkheads on my model. _________________ John Dulaney
Volunteer, North Carolina Maritime Museum
Draftsman, Municipal Engineering Services Co, PA
And I have the most extensive music collection in the county, from examples of Roman and Greek to the new ACDC album. |
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Ironman
Joined: 08 Mar 2010 Posts: 104 Location: Washington
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Nice!
Did you razor cut? |
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Iain
Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 119
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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I printed a couple of templates for the shape of the top and bottom and glued them to 1/16" aircraft plywood. I then cut them out with a band saw, keeping away from the lines. I then sanded to the lines. I glued the top and bottom together with spacer between, and sanded around the edges to get a perfect match. I wrapped some thin juniper around the outside. When the glue for that was drie, I cut it down to fit the turret, and then sanded the front slope into the two pieces of plywood. I finally cut another piece of plywood to the correct width for the angled bit, marked it, cut it, glued it on, and sanded to get the edges to the correct angle. _________________ John Dulaney
Volunteer, North Carolina Maritime Museum
Draftsman, Municipal Engineering Services Co, PA
And I have the most extensive music collection in the county, from examples of Roman and Greek to the new ACDC album. |
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